It seems Denis/ddfeyne/Cyan Intern has decided not to let me back onto MystBlogs after several emails back and forth. Apparently I was removed because of some pictures DreamingGirl posted when she was my co author. Seeing this happen, I have decided to publish all emails between the two of us. Mind my grammatical errors please, I hate yahoo…
Denis:
3/20/09
Hi Tomala,
I have received several complains about your blog’s content, which is appearing on Myst Blogs. Several of your recent blog posts are not appropriate for Myst Blogs.
I have temporarily removed your blog from from Myst Blogs. Would it be possible for you to filter the content from your end so that only specific blog posts show up on Myst Blogs?
Regards,
Denis
–Denis Defreyne
Me:
3/21/09
Hey DD,
I talked this over with my co author of the week and we both would like a bit more information as to what people have found inappropriate. Since I run the blog, I can’t do much on my end content wise unless given specifics. I would appreciate it if you would let me know what the complaints are aimed at.
Thanks.
Tomala.
Me again:
4/7/09
Hi,
I wrote you a couple weeks ago asking what kind of content needs to be removed from my blog. I find it interesting that as quick as you were to remove me from MystBlogs, you are taking your getting back to me regarding my question. If I am to remove anything that readers are complaining about, I first need to know what the complaints are being directed against. Otherwise this is not going to go anywhere. So when you find some time, I would appreciate a response.
Thank you.
From Tomala.
Denis:
4/8/09
I did send you a reply on March 21st. This is what I said:
> It is not mentioned explicitly on the Myst Blogs and Uru Blogs web sites, but we’d like to keep all content as G-rated as possible. At least two of your recent posts did not quite match that criterium:
>
> * http://overlordtomala.blogspot.com/2009 … splay.html
> * http://overlordtomala.blogspot.com/2009 … ivate.htmlRegards,
Denis
–Denis Defreyne
Denis:
4/17/09
Ah so you removed me from the list due to an unwritten rule. I guess that makes sense. However, this does not:
http://www.mystcommunity.com/board/inde … opic=33352
http://julian-lapis.livejournal.com/34990.html
http://www.mystcommunity.com/board/inde … opic=33036
http://www.mystcommunity.com/board/inde … opic=32921
http://www.mystcommunity.com/board/inde … opic=32709
Not “G” Pictures
http://www.mystcommunity.com/board/inde … opic=32667
“Clet”
http://www.mystcommunity.com/board/inde … opic=32420
I don’t seem to understand why you tell me that you try to keep it as G rated as possible and let these people and more pass through with a green light. Here we have some general cursing, a photo of someone in the nude, and PG13 discussions in CyanChat. Mind you these are small examples of my findings. I could always find the rest of them by searching some more at Myst Community.
So, what makes their content appropriate and mine (or rather, co bloggers) not appropriate?
From Tomala.
Denis:
4/17/09
I couldn’t care less about general cursing. Preventing anyone to say “shit” or “fuck” would not make sense and there wouldn’t be many people left on Myst Blogs. That photo of someone nude is not directly visible since it’s not embedded as an image in the post—instead, it is a link to an image.
“As G rated as possible” is perhaps not the best way to describe the content that should appear on Myst Blogs, but it should serve as a general guideline. The images you posted are almost NSFW, and I will definitely not ever allow such content on Myst Blogs.
The posts which prompted me to (temporarily) remove you from Myst Blogs contain images embedded directly into the web page. This means they show up to anyone visiting Myst Blogs, whether they want it or not.
A solution would be to not include any content possibly not appropriate for Myst Blogs in the actual post, but rather place them elsewhere, and place a link to this separate page in the post, along with a warning mentioning the type of material that is being linked to.
Regards,
Denis
–Denis Defreyne
Me:
4/24/09
It sounds to me like the only problem is the pictures. Is it the content itself? Or are people on dialup complaining about the load time to load these pictures. Either way I’ll edit DG’s picture posts and make her pictures into links.
Will that work for you?
Tomala.
Denis:
4/25/09
Given your inability to understand the reason why I have removed you from Myst Blogs, I’ve decided not to readd you even if you do fix the pictures.
I also believe this matter has been discussed more than necessary; any future e-mails on this topic will be ignored.
Regards,
Denis
My last email:
4/25/09
I apologize for not understanding. I only wanted to make absolutely sure what the problem was as specific as possible just so I wouldn’t make the same mistake again. It wasn’t my intent to upset you or anything of the sort.
I sincerely apologize This is my last email to you.
From Tomala.
You know, just because you’re part of Cyan in some small way, that doesn’t mean you have to use their style of vagueness when telling me what’s wrong at my blog. And even better, I go and edit the “offending” pictures and he decides due to my “inability to understand” that I’m not fit to be back on MystBlogs.
Man what was wrong with me? Why did I ever let pictures of shirtless cartoon characters and creepy cosplay onto my own blog via one of my good friends??? What the fuck was I thinking? Why can’t I be a model community member like Julian Lapis who posts things like this?
Thank you so much for saving the community from Slacker filth. I’m sure all your friends and butt buddies truly appreciate it.
I cannot believe they booted you for those pics .. which were in fact hilarious in their weirdness 😉 .. and people on Mystblog are posting that crap. Between the language and the sexual content it’s straying more into the NC17 range O_O.Yeah .. that’s the image you want projected out to the general population for Myst / Uru. Was he also part of that lot from Tapestry back in the day? sheeshDon’t let ’em get to you Tomala .. though I am sure that a few years of this bullshit is starting to wear on you.Take care sweetie. {{{{warmest… Read more »
I agree with you that Denis is being too vague. But your comment to him that his real reason for removing you was because of people on dialup having trouble downloading pictures was just not right. Now, sure, you have made many good points about the numerous other non G-rated things being let through the floodgates, and to be fair, enforcement of rules should be equal for all, and the rules should be clearly spelled out.I have stayed away from Cyan Chat, after like over a year of regular visits and chatting, because of the very mean and very not… Read more »
All I saw in the pictures were male cartoon characters and people at anime conventions who were pretty fugly. Thus why I asked him if it was the pictures themselves or the amount of time it took to load. To this day people on dialup still exist, and I don't wanna piss them off.So I'm just going to move on and continue to run my blog. Denis has made it clear that he's done with me regarding this subject, and the way I see it, it's not like it's the end of the world.It does give me some ideas for… Read more »
“I am completely incensed by Denis’s comments. I and others were complaining to him about the content of this blog long before there were any NSFW pictures, and for him to imply that such complaints were a recent development was disingenuous at best.”I have two questions for you 75th.One, why are you here?Two, What makes this blog worse than any other?After years of seeing blogs where people make off color or demeaning posts, I find it odd that you and others would complain about this one, then decide to comment on it like it’s not a big deal to you.I… Read more »
Blog=DiaryIf you didn't want people to comment or censor you then don't post it on your blog…it's public domain and anyone can find your blog easily enough. As to the Cyan Chat, that's offensive that you say we're all obsessing over Uru…I'm on there to talk to friends, Uru is merely a back-burner topic for me…I will say that if your behavior is ignorant, offensive, or inappropriate, then yes you will be criticized. That's normal tho for any public "space". If you use the mentality of your in a room full of people of mixed ages, etc. in regards to… Read more »